Topic | The Post-Scientology Internet

Scientologists, and Ex-Scientologists, have been on the Internet since the Internet was born. Thus there is a substantial post-Scientology internet culture. These posts are about that.

Rachel Bernstein Cult Counselor

Rachel Bernstein is Pissed!

Here’s the text of her post: “Hi- Rachel Bernstein here. None of that is true. If you ever have questions about anyway that I practice, or what I charge, or if I take insurance, just contact me. I have been doing this work for 26 years and there is no way that I would have […]

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Brainwashing and Hypnosis in Scientology

Andy Nolch is a Free Thinking Scientologist

In this section of my discussion about Scientology with Andy Nolch, he asks me about Hubbard’s lying. We discuss Hubbard’s probable naval intelligence training and other aspects of Scientology in the real world – and not as it’s being portrayed by hysterical Ex-Sea Org members throughout the media.

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Your Friends vs. The Truth

Truth changes. If there is anything that the experience of having gone through Scientology should teach an Ex-Scientologist, it’s that. If they quit being your friend/family just because the truth changed, then were they really your friend/family to begin with?

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Guest Post: “Rituals” by StatPush

I am eternally grateful to Mark Rathbun and Mike Rinder for what they’ve done. On a personal level, they have paid their “debt” to me for any wrongdoing. Just realize what their life must have been like. I would not trade places. Would you?

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Mr. Certainty on What it's Like to Sue Scientology

Some Well-Deserved Skepticism of Tony Ortega’s Smugness Emerges at the Underground Bunker

…”those who speculated that Rathbun had secretly settled will be feeling justifiably smug today”. – Tony Ortega Underground Bunker posters “8675309” and “Peacemaker” asked some important questions in the Underground Bunker a couple of days ago which I believe shed some well-deserved skepticism on Ortega’s smugness campaign against Mark and Monique Rathbun since April of […]

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Beliefs vs. Facts

I’ve written about this before. But there is a whole lot to gain by continually reminding myself of what a fact is, vs what a belief is. Especially with regard to political and religious areas of my life.

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Information Disease

When the President of the United States gets most of his news and information from Brietbart and Fox, and not from the information gathering services that the US has to inform the president and other leaders in our government, then you have skewed and pitched ideas filling the heads of people who need the best […]

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The Logical Problems With Atheism

If you understand what a belief is, you know that human existence is 99.9999% belief, and NOT knowledge. People who realize this are closer to reality than those who don’t realize it. People, like atheists, who think they are looking at knowledge when they are only looking at beliefs, are simply delusional.

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Thinking the Worst of Yourself as a Scientologist

How gullible can some Ex-Scientologists get? Jon Atack wrote a post on Tony Ortega’s blog, accusing everyone who was ever involved in Scientology of being gullible. I commented about Jon’s broad-brushed generality of anyone who ever called themselves a Scientologist. It gave me the chance to use the word “hootenanny” (twice), and I have been […]

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Jon Atack: Who’s Gullible?

Anti-Scientology Reverend Jon Atack is missing something: Gullibility goes 2 ways. You can be too credulous in the direction of a positive interpretation of something, and in the direction of a negative interpretation, as well.

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Leah Remini Narrates “Sweeney vs. Scientology”

This video appeared on youtube on October 23, 2016. I think it might be a tease for Leah Remini’s new show on A&E. Maybe? Or maybe not. You can see that Leah disagreed with the Scientology way that Tommy Davis and Mike Rinder were treating John Sweeney, and that she actually refused to sign her […]

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Part 4: Embrace Your Inner Scientologist

To dismiss that part of your life, to wall it off under labels of “delusional Scientologist” or “weak” or “crazy loon” is to remain in a dissociative state – to continue living a fractured life with some of the best parts of you buried underneath a wall of self-hatred and shame.

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Part Three: Never Go Full Anti

This scene, from the hilarious and insightful movie on actors and acting – Tropic Thunder – shows 2 actors (Ben Stiller and Robert Downey, Jr) dialoguing about the dangers of playing a mentally retarded character, and the serious damage (LOL) it can do to you if you get too immersed in it. The message of […]

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Marty Rathbun: How People Change After Scientology

This is an example of only one exchange I had on the Marty Rathbun Scientology blog back in 2010, when he was the leader of the second Independent Scientology Movement, and Mike Rinder was helping to moderate, mostly in the background. Samuel | October 25, 2010 at 8:10 am | Reply As an afterthought: at […]

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Vulnerable: Tony Ortega’s Degraded Stereotyping of Ex-Scientologists

Tony Ortega recently repeated (twice) that an Ex-Scientologist who got themselves involved in Scientology did so during a “vulnerable” part of their lives. It’s a frequent and superficial claim made about a multitude of individuals who get themselves involved in all kinds of cults, not just Scientology. It’s becoming quite the stereotype. Here’s what Tony […]

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Mike Rinder on Scientology

Mike Rinder Fully Invalidates the Subject of Scientology

Starting at exactly 47 min and 35 sec, you will hear Mike Rinder, the number 2 or 3 guy in the Church of Scientology since the 1980’s, who was “on the ship” and worked with Hubbard since the 1970’s, completely invalidate the subject of Scientology and back it up with his own personal experience.

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In Defense of Marty Rathbun

Marty Rathbun is as flawed as any one of us. And no one has been a bigger critic of him than I have been. But Marty Rathbun has achieved as much or more than any other critic of Scientology in its entire history – going all the way back to Joseph Winter.

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Internalizing the Criticisms of Shallow Assholes

Self-invalidation and self-disgust for having been a Scientologist is a common result of trying to graduate from Scientology. In some places on the post-scientology Internet, it becomes an unspoken penance to be endured before we can truly be considered by others to be “out” and no longer a stupid and deluded cult moron.

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Is the Take-Down of Mark & Monique Rathbun Complete?

After throwing darts in every direction, the bumbling duo of Tony Ortega and his anonymous sidekick “TexasLawyer” continue their speculation even after the last papers have been filed in the Monique Rathbun legal case, leaving their “commenting community” just as vengeful and confused as they were before. Obviously, Monique and Marty Rathbun have not done […]

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Janet Weiland, Long Time OSA Operative

Sheila From ESMB on Long Time OSA Operative Janet Weiland

In response to seeing Janet Weiland’s name and face again on ESMB after an excellent write up from Fred G. Haseney, detailing how Janet Weiland is trying to get him evicted from his home in LA for criticizing the Church of Scientology, the poster who goes by the name “Sheila” wrote this about her experiences […]

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Leah Remini: May Escape From Scientology

Scientology Finally Makes the Cover of People Magazine!

It is the goal of every Scientology Celebrity to get Scientology onto the cover of People Magazine. Leah Remini has now done it. This is an interview with the journalist who spoke to Leah for People Magazine. If you’ve never purchased a copy of People Magazine, now is the time.

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Scientology: It’s Always Worse Than You Think

The exposure of Scientology is a repetitive business. Every year, there are new people coming out of the Church who, no matter how highly trained as an auditor, no matter how many years they’ve spent on staff or in the Sea Org, know very little about the actual subject of Scientology and what it really […]

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More on Scientology’s Office of Special Affairs by Mike Rinder

This discussion about Scientology’s Office of Special Affairs occurred on Mike Rinder’s blog yesterday: Alanzo says October 31, 2015 at 12:01 pm Well done on 20/20 last night, Mike! Talking to you is like SLEEPING WITH SATAN! LOL!! It’s great that all you Int Base Escapees have created a safety net for people like Leah […]

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The Leftovers: It’s a Dessert Topping AND a Floor Wax!

This week’s episode of The Leftovers on HBO went in a direction that was very close to home for me, and probably would be for a lot of people here. Last Season, The Leftovers was a series which had a cult in it, but it wasn’t really about the cult until this week. This week, […]

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One Moon

It is said that there is only one moon. It is also said that there are as many moons as there are individuals who are looking at it. Maybe there is one objective reality called The Moon. But I don’t think that even Neil Armstrong has seen it. – Alanzo

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Haydn James: The Outer Banks

Scientologist Haydn James on Why Scientology Does Not Work

Mike Rinder posted an article on his blog today that Karen DeLacarriere gave to him from “The Outer Banks”, a super-secret Facebook group that I was joined into without my permission, and then kicked out of because it’s only for the “Key Players”. The guy who kicked me out, Ronn Stacy, told me this three […]

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Sacred Cows + Siege Mentality = Sheeple

Sheeple. An actual mathematical formula for them. I’m not kidding. I think Carl Sagan wrote about it once: Ask Neil Degrasse Tyson. It describes a fundamental property of all human groups: not just Scientists and Scientologists. As social animals, human beings set up rules, both tacit and expressed, to coordinate their efforts in pursuit of […]

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The Thinker's Toolkit by Morgan Jones

Hypothesis Testing

There’s a really good book, written by a former CIA analyst, called “The Thinker’s Toolkit”. This book contains 14 tools of structured analysis which can be used to help you figure things out. A structured analysis is a technique that police detectives, FBI agents, CIA Analysts, and others use to investigate something without letting emotions, […]

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Kindness vs Cruelty Smackdown on the Post-Scientology Internet

I recently pissed off a Fierce Anti-Scientology Internet Warrior about her use of cruelty. I asked her a lot of questions to try to understand exactly how she thought about it. From what I could gather, I found that our motivations to be cruel to others on the Internet were very similar. I found that, […]

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Read Plato

Another excellent discussion over on Mike Rinder’s blog prompted me to post this solution to the endless tribal warfare between “spiritualists” and “scientists”. Although I almost always disagree with her, Marildi, once again does an admirable job making her case. As well as Eclipse-Girl, Roger Hornaday, and the rest. _____________________________________ marildi says June 17, 2015 […]

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Dogs Annoying Cats With Friendship

On this, L Ron Hubbard’s 104 Birthday, and with the premier of Alex Gibney’s documentary “Going Clear” in theaters around the country, I post something L Ron Hubbard had nothing whatsoever to do with: Post by HuffPost Good News. And an update: Pete Griffiths’ legal fund is up to 2475 Euros! If you have not […]

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Great Posts From the Post-Scientology Internet: Mimsey Borogrove on ESMB

In keeping with not forgetting the positive and constructive parts of Scientology in order to seek to live with the truth, I found Mimsey Borogrove’s opening post on ESMB to be highly relevant. So I am stealing it and posting it here. Here’s the original: http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?37893-A-positive-viewpoint-what-s-it-worth A positive viewpoint – what’s it worth? ” I […]

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Tom Smith's The Ex-Scientologist Forum

Tom Smith’s “The Ex-Scientologist Forum”

Tom Smith is an Ex-Scientologist who for years interviewed many thought leaders in the world of Scientology criticism and cult recovery on Hawk Radio’s “The Edge” from Tampa Bay, Florida. He has also maintained a forum called The Ex-Scientologist Forum – not to be confused with ESMB, (The Ex-Scientologist Message Board). Over the years, Tom […]

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Alanzo Talks With Marildi on Geir’s Blog

Alanzo Quotes Marildi on Geir’s blog: Marildi wrote: “Btw, if you hadn’t blown our comm cycle (ahem) over on the So Afr blog last week, the next thing I was going tell you, on the plus side, was that I have observed your sincere kindheartedness at times (as opposed to the insincere 😛 ). I […]

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Great Comments From the Post-Scientology Internet – Mike Rinder’s Blog

Real and free exchange of ideas are happening on the Post-Scientology Internet, and nowhere more than on the former head of the Office of Special Affairs’ own section of it: MikeRindersBlog.org This exchange is typical now of the conversations and data going back and forth there. _________________________________________________ Gerhard Waterkamp says October 31, 2014 at 1:55 […]

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Scientology vs. The Internet

This article appeared in 1995 and documents some of the history of Scientology, Ex-Scientologists and Critics using the Internet to warn the public about the dangers of Scientology. It documents the major role that the newsgroup alt.religion.scientology played in the early days of dissent against Scientology and some of the events and people involved. This […]

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Here’s What Makes a Scientologist Stupid

I wrote this after dealing with a swarm of Scientologists on the Internet: I’ve seen it now. It is unmistakable. It works like this: You present an idea that has NOTHING to do with Scientology, and the Scientologist must relate it to something in Scientology to “understand” what you are talking about. Example: I wrote […]

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