Reza Aslan’s episode of “Believer” on CNN regarding Independent Scientology changed my life for the better. It reminded me of an approach to belief and spiritual pursuits that is positive, constructive, and life-giving.
Truth changes. If there is anything that the experience of having gone through Scientology should teach an Ex-Scientologist, it’s that. If they quit being your friend/family just because the truth changed, then were they really your friend/family to begin with?
Could this righteous fight that we’ve all engaged in regarding Scientology, for all these years, have only been because we felt guilty and needed to re-establish our own moral identity after finding out how abusive Scientology had been?
Robert Vaughn Young (RVY) was Mike Rinder’s predecessor for many years. He woke up from the spell of Scientology in the 1990’s and contributed some of the best critical writing on Scientology that exists. He died of cancer in 2003.
Zeke and Martha Agree that Alanzo is an asshole, an atten whore and a shit-stirrer.
Martha & Zeke Discuss Tony Ortega, Where to Find the Good Things in Scientology on Sale at WalMart, and Saving the Planet From Scientology.
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I am eternally grateful to Mark Rathbun and Mike Rinder for what they’ve done. On a personal level, they have paid their “debt” to me for any wrongdoing. Just realize what their life must have been like. I would not trade places. Would you?
Mike Rinder should use Season 2 of Scientology and The Aftermath to provide a Truth and Reconciliation commission on the people he has fair-gamed as the head of OSA.
If you’ve written enough screenplays, you learn that the main difference between the good guy and the bad guy in a movie is that for one, you know his motives for the actions he takes in the story, and for the other, you don’t. Good guys can kill people, blow up cars and bridges – […]
From the article: But even before the film’s debut, the accuracy of those staged depictions of Miscavige losing his temper and hitting church members was called into question by Rathbun himself. “The ‘re-creation’ was in fact a creation,” Rathbun wrote on his blog in September. “Even though they worked with me for a year on […]
…”those who speculated that Rathbun had secretly settled will be feeling justifiably smug today”. – Tony Ortega Underground Bunker posters “8675309” and “Peacemaker” asked some important questions in the Underground Bunker a couple of days ago which I believe shed some well-deserved skepticism on Ortega’s smugness campaign against Mark and Monique Rathbun since April of […]
I have to say that Tony Ortega hit it out of the park this morning. Not only did he publish evidence of probable criminal activity and cover up by members of the Church of Scientology in the Danny Masterson case, but he also produced Dani Lemberger, who said…
In this short TED talk, Alain de Botton delivers a heavyweight performance. He builds a very workable connection between atheist and religious thought, presenting a way to extract the good from both for the future of society.
A couple of months ago I was talking to a friend of mine, who is a forensic psychologist, and I was telling him about my path into and out of Scientology, and then into and out of Ex-Scientology. I told him that I got into Scientology and did everything I could to be a good […]
This will knock your socks off.
Atheists are really bad about understanding other human beings’ religious beliefs. They really don’t get the nature of belief at all, while being ruled by their own beliefs. All this is such giggily freaking fun for this TV show.
My best friend died last November. Yesterday, I was in a business meeting with a new client at her business. A person from my friend’s old workplace stopped in to call on my new client. When that person left, I told this new client of mine a personal story about my friend that was wholly […]
I’ve written about this before. But there is a whole lot to gain by continually reminding myself of what a fact is, vs what a belief is. Especially with regard to political and religious areas of my life.
When the President of the United States gets most of his news and information from Brietbart and Fox, and not from the information gathering services that the US has to inform the president and other leaders in our government, then you have skewed and pitched ideas filling the heads of people who need the best […]
How can fervent Churchie Elizabeth Moss (as she has been described by the tribal leaders of the anti-Scientology “movement”) possibly be doing a TV series with Ex-Scientologist Nicole Kidman? Oh I know! What’s the standard line from the anti-Scientologists? “Celebs are pampered by the Church!” Well there is some truth to that. But it’s like […]
Along with Richard Dawkins, Daniel Dennett and Christopher Hitchens, Sam Harris is considered one of the “Four Horseman” of New Age Atheism. He has a degree in philosophy from Stanford University and a Ph.D. in neuroscience from UCLA. He is also a practicing Buddhist. While avoiding the direct criticisms of atheism that I’ve laid out […]
If you understand what a belief is, you know that human existence is 99.9999% belief, and NOT knowledge. People who realize this are closer to reality than those who don’t realize it. People, like atheists, who think they are looking at knowledge when they are only looking at beliefs, are simply delusional.
How gullible can some Ex-Scientologists get? Jon Atack wrote a post on Tony Ortega’s blog, accusing everyone who was ever involved in Scientology of being gullible. I commented about Jon’s broad-brushed generality of anyone who ever called themselves a Scientologist. It gave me the chance to use the word “hootenanny” (twice), and I have been […]
Many people have listed the parts of Scientology involvement, especially Arnie Lerma at his seminal Lermanet.com blog. This is one I developed for a project I am working on.
Your assumptions can be quite insidious. You must study the actual subjects that Hubbard “spun” for you – from sources completely independent from L Ron Hubbard – so as to challenge your own assumptions, separate out Hubbard’s installed ones, and inspect them for their weaknesses.
Ad hom attacks. Personal insults. Worst possible interpretations of Scientology which are so over the top they’re mostly false. Arrogant, imperialist demands that everyone sees Scientology the exact same way they do. Who’s the Biggest Asshole on ESMB??
Anti-Scientology Reverend Jon Atack is missing something: Gullibility goes 2 ways. You can be too credulous in the direction of a positive interpretation of something, and in the direction of a negative interpretation, as well.
Tony Ortega is one of the most valuable critics of Scientology ever. But is his viewpoint so valuable that it should not be questioned? Absolutely not. There are many flaws – especially for Ex-Scientologists – that must be brought to light and discussed.
GO LEAH!!! Read her letter to Scientology here Watch her show “Scientology and Its Aftermath” on A&E Network Premiering on November 29th, 9/10C
The key characteristic of a pseudo-skeptic of Scientology is the furious and dedicated certainty of their position, and their squinting suspicion that anyone who would question them must be an OSA agent.
This video appeared on youtube on October 23, 2016. I think it might be a tease for Leah Remini’s new show on A&E. Maybe? Or maybe not. You can see that Leah disagreed with the Scientology way that Tommy Davis and Mike Rinder were treating John Sweeney, and that she actually refused to sign her […]
Don’t catastrophize Scientology or your experiences in it. Always work to keep your experiences in Scientology in perspective.
A cool even head is always smarter and more effective at eradicating abuse, if it does exist, than a hotheaded ideologue. And it will be harder to manipulate you. Good luck out there.
If you were not abused in Scientology, and you say so in the various social media platforms on the Internet, then you can be accused of being heartless to those who were. A common way to avoid that is to forget your own viewpoint and to take up other peoples’ problems of abuse as your […]
To dismiss that part of your life, to wall it off under labels of “delusional Scientologist” or “weak” or “crazy loon” is to remain in a dissociative state – to continue living a fractured life with some of the best parts of you buried underneath a wall of self-hatred and shame.
This scene, from the hilarious and insightful movie on actors and acting – Tropic Thunder – shows 2 actors (Ben Stiller and Robert Downey, Jr) dialoguing about the dangers of playing a mentally retarded character, and the serious damage (LOL) it can do to you if you get too immersed in it. The message of […]
This is an example of only one exchange I had on the Marty Rathbun Scientology blog back in 2010, when he was the leader of the second Independent Scientology Movement, and Mike Rinder was helping to moderate, mostly in the background. Samuel | October 25, 2010 at 8:10 am | Reply As an afterthought: at […]
Once I’d spotted that my thinking was tribal, I was no longer consumed by my tribe’s survival. I resented that the tribe had taken over my thinking. I could finally see the eclipsed and thoughtless cruelty of my former tribe.
I used to think that as long as I was not in the cult of Scientology any more, I would never fall into the unquestioning, partisan mindset that I had adopted when I was a Scientologist.
Karen de la Carrier, the former “Queen of Scientology”, tries to suppress criticism of Tony Ortega by deeming it “OSA Program”. Should we all just get in line and do what we’re told now?
The majority of Ex-Scientologists today avoid posting to ESMB. They had enough mental abuse in the cult and certainly don’t need any more of it as an Ex-Scientologist on ESMB.
Tony Ortega recently repeated (twice) that an Ex-Scientologist who got themselves involved in Scientology did so during a “vulnerable” part of their lives. It’s a frequent and superficial claim made about a multitude of individuals who get themselves involved in all kinds of cults, not just Scientology. It’s becoming quite the stereotype. Here’s what Tony […]
I believe if an Ex-cultist is to fully graduate from his former cultic thinking and keep evolving and growing in a constructive manner after the cult, he should teach himself to listen to criticism, and carefully determine if there might be something true in it.
My point is not that there is no damage that comes from having been involved with Scientology. My point is that these assumptions must be examined critically before making these generalizations about Ex-Scientologists – and especially before adopting these assumptions for yourself as an Ex.
With so many people stuck in the most negative views possible on ESMB, is this a place where an Ex-Scientologist can productively evolve and grow after their experiences in Scientology?
Starting at exactly 47 min and 35 sec, you will hear Mike Rinder, the number 2 or 3 guy in the Church of Scientology since the 1980’s, who was “on the ship” and worked with Hubbard since the 1970’s, completely invalidate the subject of Scientology and back it up with his own personal experience.
This Ex-Scientologist is courageously putting herself out there and warning the public about the abuses she has personally witnessed in Scientology, and while she is in the middle of doing that, Tony Ortega tries to discredit her on his blog.
If I were to pinpoint exactly when my disillusionment began with Scientology watching, I’d have to say the seed was planted with the Going Clear premiere.
Marty Rathbun is as flawed as any one of us. And no one has been a bigger critic of him than I have been. But Marty Rathbun has achieved as much or more than any other critic of Scientology in its entire history – going all the way back to Joseph Winter.
Of all the books that have been written about Scientology, if you had only one shot to communicate to someone what Scientology was all about, I would give them John Sweeney’s “Church of Fear”.
Self-invalidation and self-disgust for having been a Scientologist is a common result of trying to graduate from Scientology. In some places on the post-scientology Internet, it becomes an unspoken penance to be endured before we can truly be considered by others to be “out” and no longer a stupid and deluded cult moron.
Jeff Hawkins wrote a post a few years ago detailing much of the basics behind Cognitive Dissonance Theory, and I am very grateful that he did, as this theory is fundamental to understanding not only how cult dynamics work, but how human beings work. I’m currently listening to free online lectures from a Social Psychology […]
Have you heard that the term “brainwashing” is a nebulous term that doesn’t describe anything, and been told that it should be beneath you to say that a “religion” brainwashes people? What exactly is a brainwashing technique? Chris Shelton describes what a brainwashing technique is, very specificly and very clearly, in his exposure of the […]
On Mike Rinder’s excellent blog, a person named “Peter Turner” wrote: “I joined Scientology to help create a world without war, insanity and crime. I used to believed it was possible and others believed it too. But now? War is still with us – crime is on the rise and I don’t know if Scientology […]
Thrilling debate by 4 very smart people on whether “Science Refutes God”.
This discussion about Scientology’s Office of Special Affairs occurred on Mike Rinder’s blog yesterday: Alanzo says October 31, 2015 at 12:01 pm Well done on 20/20 last night, Mike! Talking to you is like SLEEPING WITH SATAN! LOL!! It’s great that all you Int Base Escapees have created a safety net for people like Leah […]
This week’s episode of The Leftovers on HBO went in a direction that was very close to home for me, and probably would be for a lot of people here. Last Season, The Leftovers was a series which had a cult in it, but it wasn’t really about the cult until this week. This week, […]
At around the 1:30 mark you can see pulitzer Prize winning journalist, Lawrence Wright, call Scientology’s Sea Organization “The Clergy” in Scientology. This is just one time when both of these excellent journalists called Scientology’s Sea Organization, a “clergy” or “priesthood”. It was part of their messaging when they promoted “Going Clear” in many interviews […]
This is a story that is directly related to Scientology because Scientology technology hypnotizes people in a very similar way to the techniques used by this Principal on his students – all without a license. Real hypnotists, as well as state regulators, understand the need for licensing: BECAUSE HYPNOSIS IS DANGEROUS IF YOU DO NOT […]
It is said that there is only one moon. It is also said that there are as many moons as there are individuals who are looking at it. Maybe there is one objective reality called The Moon. But I don’t think that even Neil Armstrong has seen it. – Alanzo
The legendary critic of Scientology who posts under the name “Veda” on ESMB has unearthed a couple quotes from Mike Rinder which show the change he has undergone in the last few years as he continues to live life outside the cult. Below, back in late 2012, there was a discussion of what L Ron […]
Mike Rinder posted an article on his blog today that Karen DeLacarriere gave to him from “The Outer Banks”, a super-secret Facebook group that I was joined into without my permission, and then kicked out of because it’s only for the “Key Players”. The guy who kicked me out, Ronn Stacy, told me this three […]
Sheeple. An actual mathematical formula for them. I’m not kidding. I think Carl Sagan wrote about it once: Ask Neil Degrasse Tyson. It describes a fundamental property of all human groups: not just Scientists and Scientologists. As social animals, human beings set up rules, both tacit and expressed, to coordinate their efforts in pursuit of […]
There’s a really good book, written by a former CIA analyst, called “The Thinker’s Toolkit”. This book contains 14 tools of structured analysis which can be used to help you figure things out. A structured analysis is a technique that police detectives, FBI agents, CIA Analysts, and others use to investigate something without letting emotions, […]
It never stops, no matter what cult you’ve been in, or how old you get. This is what Buddy Miles had to say about it a few decades ago. We are not rational animals, no matter what ideal L Ron Hubbard, or greek philosopher, tried to force you to accept. The reactive mind was never […]
Scientology, as created and maintained by L Ron Hubbard, seeks to take over and dictate every thing that the Scientologist thinks and feels. If you were ever a fervent, KSW believing Scientologist, then you probably adopted Scientology to do your thinking and feeling for you. As a result, you may have had difficulty dismantling this […]
1. Science is limited to what can be tested. 2. Do things exist which can not be tested? Examine Number 1 above. – Tell us whether it’s true. Ask yourself Number 2 above. – Tell us what you come up with. Start
Alanzo on August 29, 2015 at 8:41 pm said: I think the discussion here is interesting, but as long as you are using Scientology to think with, you will never get out of its trap. I wrote this on the BackinCommBlog, and they actually let it through!
People who got themselves involved in Scientology were continually presented with all kinds of moral choices about how they would treat their fellow man. Because Scientology is a cult, it takes all the social traits of human groups, and turns them up to an intensity that can only be described as ELEVEN. If the bullies […]
I recently pissed off a Fierce Anti-Scientology Internet Warrior about her use of cruelty. I asked her a lot of questions to try to understand exactly how she thought about it. From what I could gather, I found that our motivations to be cruel to others on the Internet were very similar. I found that, […]
Exposing Scientology is a finely honed skill. John McGhee knows how to inoculate society from the toxic spiritual deception and totalitarian paramilitary fanaticism of Scientology. Here he gives a master class in exactly how it is done. John will not always be on guard, as he too has a life beyond Scientology which must be […]
Another excellent discussion over on Mike Rinder’s blog prompted me to post this solution to the endless tribal warfare between “spiritualists” and “scientists”. Although I almost always disagree with her, Marildi, once again does an admirable job making her case. As well as Eclipse-Girl, Roger Hornaday, and the rest. _____________________________________ marildi says June 17, 2015 […]
John Travolta spoke out against Alex Gibney’s documentary “Going Clear” on Scientology yesterday, as was reported in the Tampa Bay Times. Here’s an important quote from the Tampa Bay Times article which shows how Travolta, as a Scientologist, thinks about it I think this is some very interesting reasoning, actually: (more…)
This documentary by this Oscar winning filmmaker, based on a book by a Pulitzer prize winning journalist, means that the exposure of Scientology criminality and abuse has now gone mainstream, and the work of many hundreds of people has finally succeeded. No matter what they tried to do to us, Scientology could never shudder us […]
What if the title of this post is true? It would mean that all this time spent studying bibles and sutras, and pouring over sermons, would only cage us inside self-referential language. What if there is a whole world out there that does not run on any language at all? What if we ourselves don’t […]
God and the Devil walk into a bar, sit down and order a beer. God says, “I think I’ll start a religion.” The Devil says, “Great idea. I’ll organize it.”
Thank you to everyone who has worked to get the truth out about Scientology, and who helped to create justice for its victims. Alanzo
In keeping with not forgetting the positive and constructive parts of Scientology in order to seek to live with the truth, I found Mimsey Borogrove’s opening post on ESMB to be highly relevant. So I am stealing it and posting it here. Here’s the original: http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?37893-A-positive-viewpoint-what-s-it-worth A positive viewpoint – what’s it worth? ” I […]
Sounds kind of circular, doesn’t it? Well it is. Most Scientologists are stuck in the circular trap of trying to use Scientology to understand Scientology. You can see them on the Internet, using an LRH reference to explain another LRH reference. For example: How do we know the reactive mind exists? Because we have engrams […]
Tom Smith is an Ex-Scientologist who for years interviewed many thought leaders in the world of Scientology criticism and cult recovery on Hawk Radio’s “The Edge” from Tampa Bay, Florida. He has also maintained a forum called The Ex-Scientologist Forum – not to be confused with ESMB, (The Ex-Scientologist Message Board). Over the years, Tom […]
Mike Rinder posted a graphic which proves that the Church of Scientology lies to the world about their size, and the rate of their growth. They, in fact, are shrinking, while they tell the world, and the world’s media, that they are growing. Jefferson Hawkins of SkyHawk Studios created this graphic from statistical data that […]
Today’s is an easy post to write. When you have been involved in Scientology and seen the kind of abuse that people have suffered in it, it’s difficult to keep thinking about. It’s hard to keep dredging it up in order to warn people away from Scientology. But the stories of abuse have to be […]
The human mind sometimes wants things it thinks about – especially important things to think about – to be ALL GOOD or ALL BAD. A mixture of good and bad in the mind gives you a feeling of dissonance – or chaos or disorder. ALL GOOD or ALL BAD gives a feeling of consonance – […]
Paul Haggis, the brilliant Canadian screenwriter and director, was interviewed about his latest movie, “Third Person” as it is being released in theatres in Europe this week. Go there to read it: Telegraph UK – Paul Haggis Interview It’s an excellent interview by an admirable Ex-Scientologist. In my opinion, this is how a responsible person […]
When a Scientologist leaves the Church of Scientology and sees the information on L Ron Hubbard’s real life outside the glossy brochures printed by the Church, internal conflicts result. These internal conflicts can swirl around questions like this: “How can this man – whose technology gave me so many spiritual wins and real advancements in […]
I wrote this after dealing with a swarm of Scientologists on the Internet: I’ve seen it now. It is unmistakable. It works like this: You present an idea that has NOTHING to do with Scientology, and the Scientologist must relate it to something in Scientology to “understand” what you are talking about. Example: I wrote […]
Marty wrote a post on his blog recently that is a throwback, or maybe even a backslide, to his earlier days. It’s here: The Scientology Sandbox In this post, he once again tries to create a “reasonable middle ground” which he proposes that he occupies. Everyone he disagrees with, however, seems to exist on the […]
Michael Shermer has written two books, “The Believing Brain” and “Why People Believe Weird Things”, which have been life-changing reads for me. There are several key points made in these books which can help a person understand Scientology, and Scientology-like experiences, in brand new ways. For me, a key point came early in “The Believing […]
I read a story that Buddhists tell each other about a Tibetan mother who was a devout buddhist, and who had a son who traveled to India regularly on business. Before a trip the son was going to take to India, his mother asked him to please bring her back something that she could use […]
This 20 minute talk starts out in what appears to be a very shallow way. There is a change about 3 minutes in to the video that reveals just how profound it really is. So stick with it. It may change your life.
An interesting article written about victims of abuse from Slate.com on February 8th 2014 by Samantha Gelmer, the woman who was sexually abused as a 13 year old by the film director Roman Polanski. Her message, while written within the context of sexual abuse, applies just as strongly to anyone who has experienced religious and […]
When I was first getting out of Scientology around 13 years ago, I was talking to an ex-Scientologist who worked at the Lisa McPherson Trust. She received phone calls and emails from people getting out of Scientology all day long at her job there. I told her that one of the things I’m struggling with […]
I hear people talking about recovering from Scientology. What does that mean? Is there an “End Phenomenon” to that? I have definitely changed quite a bit since getting out of Scn 13 years ago. At first I was terrified that I would lose everything. That was stupid: All I lost was my job, all my […]